Song With Refrain Lighting Striking Again Lyrics

08-23-2014, 04:43 PM	#i
Human beingness with feelings Bring together Appointment: Jan 2012 Posts: 528	Refrain/chorus tin can you requite me examples from songs hullo i was reading refrain and chorus is not ever the same? can you lot give examples from songs with a refrain and a chorus?

08-23-2014, 07:07 PM	#2
Human being with feelings Bring together Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, Great britain Posts: 4,376	A refrain is a bit that is regularly repeated, especially at the end of a poetry. eg "O'er the land of the complimentary, and the abode of the dauntless." You lot know what a chorus is.

08-23-2014, 07:xx PM	#iii
Homo being with feelings Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 528	tin can i have another case equally well? cheers

08-23-2014, 07:29 PM	#4
Homo with feelings Bring together Engagement: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, Great britain Posts: four,376	Perchance.... No. Oh, wait! No. On the other hand.... No. There you lot become.

08-24-2014, 05:41 AM	#5
Human being existence with feelings Bring together Appointment: January 2012 Posts: 528	so "no" is the refrain?

08-24-2014, 06:20 AM	#6
Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon UK Posts: one,157	No - That's the chorus.....:-) __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from one loving cup of tea to another with no idea where the next slice of block is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-24-2014, 06:28 AM	#7
Human being with feelings Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 4,376	It'due south both, really.... No.... Wait... it's neither.... No.... Oh, I don't.... Know....

08-24-2014, 06:55 AM	#8
Human being with feelings Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon UK Posts: 1,157	Y'all forgot the middle eight... __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from one cup of tea to another with no idea where the adjacent slice of cake is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-24-2014, 06:59 AM	#9
Man existence with feelings Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon UK Posts: one,157	From http://musiced.virtually.com/od/othermusicgenres/p/partsofasong.htm Verse: The verse is the part of the song that tells a story. Again think of yourself as a salesperson, you lot would demand to apply the proper words to convey information about your product in order to sell it. The verse functions the same way; information technology gives listeners more insight leading to the primary bulletin of the vocal and it moves the story forward. A vocal may have a number of verses, depending on the course, consisting of several lines each. Refrain: A refrain is a line (also can exist the title) that is repeated at the end of every verse. Allow's have our example for the AAA vocal class: at the terminate of each poesy of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" the line (which also happens to exist the title) "Like a bridge over troubled water" is repeated. The refrain is dissimilar from the chorus. Chorus: The chorus is the part of the vocal that often sticks to the mind of a listener considering it contrasts with the verse and is repeated several times. The main theme is expressed in the chorus; the title of the song is usually included in the chorus besides. Coming back to our salesperson analogy, think of the chorus every bit the slogan, the words that finer summarizes why consumers should buy your production. Differences Betwixt Refrain and Chorus: At that place is some defoliation as to the role of the refrain and chorus. Although both have lines that are repeated and may contain the title, the refrain and chorus vary in length. The refrain is shorter than the chorus; ofttimes the refrain is composed of 2 lines while the chorus can be fabricated up of several lines. The chorus is likewise melodically, rhythmically and lyrically different from the verse and expresses the main message of the song. And there you lot have it - or not...... __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from one cup of tea to another with no idea where the adjacent slice of cake is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-24-2014, 07:04 AM	#ten
Man being with feelings Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: iv,376	Quote: Originally Posted by barrymk You forgot the middle eight... Aw, shite. It's both, actually.... No.... W8... it's neither.... No.... Oh, I don't.... Know.... Ameliorate?

08-24-2014, 07:09 AM	#11
Human being with feelings Join Date: February 2013 Location: my infinite Posts: 932	Check out this songwriting course with Prof Pat Pattison: https://www.coursera.org/course/songwriting The nowadays run of the six-week course is two thirds of the way through, but y'all can download the videos and learn that fashion without joining in with all the tests etc. Or you lot can look till October 24th, when the course starts again. Pat's videos are well worth watching, he's funny and passionate and knows his onions. __________________ Y'all never know what'due south coming

08-24-2014, 07:28 AM	#12
Human existence with feelings Bring together Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: four,376	Quote: Originally Posted by barrymk And there you have information technology - or not...... That's a nifty explanation, actually, of the sort that I really couldn't be bothered with concluding nighttime. It relates to a very traditional song structure; it's a traditional fashion of looking at song structure. The rules are non always then clearly defined, because this is an fine art, and there are no rules. By definition, whatsoever chorus which repeats (non all of them practise) could be considered to exist a refrain, though nosotros wouldn't unremarkably use the word 'refrain' in that context. (Or any verse that repeats, for that thing.) Not every song has a chorus. Not every song has a refrain. Not every verse tells a story. Non all lyrics make sense, or even try to. It's yet a great explanation, though. Quote: Originally Posted by samsome123 and then "no" is the refrain? You got it. At present try this one.... Does this song tell a story? Does information technology make sense? Does it have a chorus? Does it accept a refrain? More 1? Is it even a song? I think the answer to all the to a higher place questions is 'yes'.... but I'chiliad open to persuasion. Terminal edited by Fex; 08-24-2014 at 07:50 AM.

08-24-2014, 08:fourteen AM	#13
Man being with feelings Bring together Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland Posts: 1,157	Strikes me equally someone's idea of music every bit art or art as music. Does that make it a vocal? Does it make information technology adept or bad? Dunno, don't really care every bit long as I don't take to listen to information technology again as personally I found it tediously repetitive and boring. My taste - not a criticism..... Every bit for the OP I don't understand why what is a chorus/refrain matters. Like the creator of the above piece of work, he comes up with an thought and records it and in the procedure satisfies a creative urge and enjoys himself. And sod everyone else! __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from one cup of tea to another with no idea where the next piece of block is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-24-2014, 08:28 AM	#14
Human being being with feelings Join Appointment: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 4,376	Quote: Originally Posted by barrymk Dunno, don't really intendance as long as I don't take to heed to it once again as personally I found it tediously repetitive and boring. You didn't accept to listen to information technology the first time! I didn't post information technology for your entertainment, but for samsome123 to have the opportunity to consider the question of what is a refrain and what is a chorus with subject matter which is a little more advanced than Simon and Garfunkel.

08-24-2014, 08:34 AM	#15
Man existence with feelings Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon UK Posts: 1,157	Chill, I reiterate Quote: Originally Posted by barrymk My sense of taste - not a criticism..... __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from 1 cup of tea to another with no idea where the next slice of cake is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-24-2014, xi:57 AM	#sixteen
Homo with feelings Bring together Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland Posts: 4,376	Quote: Originally Posted by barrymk Chill, I reiterate Hmm? Quite chilled hither, thanks. You are entirely within your rights to dislike whatever music you similar. Um.... no.... look.... To similar any music you dislike.... no....

08-25-2014, 03:42 AM	#17
Human being with feelings Bring together Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon UK Posts: 1,157	Mmm. Similar, should I like to dislike or dislike to similar? Like? __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from i cup of tea to some other with no idea where the adjacent piece of cake is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-25-2014, 04:05 AM	#eighteen
Human with feelings Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 4,376	Well, I gauge it's up to you lot.... I don't especially dislike that you dislike, like, if you lot dislike liking, but if you lot, like, like disliking, and so I would probably dislike your liking disliking, like.

08-25-2014, 04:25 AM	#xix
Human being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Norfolk Great britain Posts: 1,166	This is a helpful discussion in my opinion. It is helpful to empathise what others are talking nigh when they mention chorus, refrain, etc, and also to utilise that understanding to have some structure to what you are creating - at least to me information technology is. If you decide to get outside of all that at some point that's ok too isn't it? Being creative in that fashion doesn't accept to hateful doing things in a radical, maybe random, non standard manner, merely it could mean all those things. Shame about the malaise creeping in. Oh, by the way, what happened to the 'bridge'. __________________ Windows 7 Pro. Intel i7 3400ghz. 16GB Ram. Focusrite Scarlett 8i6. Reaper 64. suleiman: "WTF r u ppl on abt ?"

08-25-2014, 05:44 AM	#xx
Human existence with feelings Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 4,376	Quote: Originally Posted past misc100 Oh, by the way, what happened to the 'bridge'. From whst barrymk was proverb, I gather that information technology is over troubled water....

08-25-2014, 06:10 AM	#21
Human being with feelings Bring together Date: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon UK Posts: i,157	Quote: Originally Posted by Fex if you dislike liking, but if you lot, like, like disliking, then I would probably dislike your liking disliking, like. What'due south that like and so? And would I like it? Didn't S&Thou get u.s. here in the first place over that pesky span? Anyway, equally the human said "It's only Rock'north Whorl". __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from one loving cup of tea to another with no idea where the next piece of cake is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-25-2014, 08:20 AM	#22
Homo being with feelings Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Norfolk United kingdom of great britain and northern ireland Posts: i,166	Quote: Originally Posted by Fex From whst barrymk was saying, I gather that it is over troubled water.... ha ha ha I knew it, I knew information technology __________________ Windows vii Pro. Intel i7 3400ghz. 16GB Ram. Focusrite Scarlett 8i6. Reaper 64. suleiman: "WTF r u ppl on abt ?"

08-25-2014, 08:27 AM	#23
Human beingness with feelings Join Appointment: Mar 2010 Location: Stratford upon Avon Great britain Posts: 1,157	Perchance the OP should refrain from writing choruses? __________________ Ageing, failed rockstar lurching from 1 cup of tea to some other with no idea where the next piece of block is coming from. https://barrykingsbeer.bandcamp.com/

08-25-2014, 10:39 AM	#24
Man with feelings Bring together Engagement: October 2009 Posts: vi,206	Quote: Originally Posted by Fex From whst barrymk was saying, I gather that it is over troubled water.... LOL...... __________________ "F" off.

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